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Hi Poem Hackers!
Tracy and I hope you've enjoyed Hack this Poem. We've got a learner satisfaction survey we hope you'll complete to improve our community.
It'll come to your P2PU inbox--thanks for hacking poems with us.
Vanessa
Hi everyone!
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Ballade Of A Talked-Off Ear |
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By Dorothy Parker
Daily I listen to wonder and woe,
Ah…. I love Dorothy Parker. When I came across this, I wondered what Parker would say in this age of continual kissing and telling !!
I apply the same theme to cyberspace, and insert a little narrative into the mix.
‘Like’
I do not like Your status updates Of borrowed brilliance or trivial fates
I do not like To find you four-squared In yet another place For which I do not care
I do not like That photo you took With me in the back Untagged and unlooked
I do not like Your 893 friends Too many for comfort Though I’m one of them.
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I like the inversion here--Parker was definitely being sarcastic when it came to poets "owning" the ability to kiss and tell. Your piece's point of view definitely inverts that--who "gets" to tell the backstory is, earnestly and a little bitterly, the poet.
I'm going to push a bit further here--
Do you want to try to revise our poems? Do you have time/feel up to it?
To get a sense of the poem's dramatic action, I looked at the pieces and tagged them to a dramatic arc--a beginning, a middle and an end. Put visually, we can refer to this arc as a "dramatic mountain."
Source http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Plotmountain.jpg
By Kaede4 (Own work) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons
When applied to "I Passed 3 Girls Killing a Goat" dramatic structure looks like:
Beginning
Hi Vanessa!
I love how you analysed Greenberg's poem! I have a question - do ALL poems follow this arc? (I ask 'cos I know I've read some poems which gave me goosebumps, but which did not necessarily have a 'dramatic action' arc...
I was instantly hooked by your premise of a body found in the Charles River. It certainly echoed Greenberg's 'traumatic triggering event'! The description of the body also evoked a visceral response from me - who was she? who shaved her head? why did they release those details?
But I found it hard to connect with the last two stanzas.. (don't worry, it could be because I'm quite dense!) Were they tied to the title of your poem 'Guardians'? Was the masseuse' 'soft handshake' suppose to echo the limpness of the drowned body? Is it that everyone was complicit in this death, that everyone failed in our role as 'guardians', with our distractions and places to go and general self-obsessions?
Would love to hear what you think!
(P/S: I'm still trying to work out my poem.. will try to post soon!!!)
Tracy
Hey Tracy Tan!
I'm working with the idea of casual, communal trust--other drivers in urban traffic, rule-enforcers, practioners of healing--and the ways we're immune to thinking about fragility in order to move through the world without paralyzing anxieties. We opt-in, we give guardians the ability to speak for us--unless we take data away, like the woman in the river who was a Jane Doe.
So that's the content arc, or where I was going with the content arc.
But your point is totally, totally well taken--indeed, the "dramatic arc" has been criticized for being a Western convention.
Good poems can also come out of rebelling against the arc--although that may unsettle your audience, who is looking for a clear beginning, middle and an end. That's definitely a creative choice.
:-)
Vanessa